А6 2.0 TDI вибрация после после прогрева до 75 градусов.

Тема в разделе "Дизельные двигатели", создана пользователем dvm78, 23 янв 2011.

  1. dvm78

    dvm78 Участник форума

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    А6 2.0 TDI вариатор ,появилась вибрация после прогрева от 75 до 90 градусов(соответственно ниже 75 градусов все ок.), ошибок нет ,подушки новые оригинал , форсунки все в допуске ,маховик менялся 4 месяца назад,компресию меряли как у новой ,вибрация ощущается только на паркинге и нитралке ,в драйве и на задней все в норме видемо сказывается нагрузка и ее незаметно. Нужен совет где ковырять.
     
  2. UTUG

    UTUG Властелин 8-ми колец

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    Какие цифры в группе (13) коррекции ?
     
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    Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 GC)

    10:07:07 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
    -0.26 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
    -0.12 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
    0.16 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
    0.21 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4
     
  4. UTUG

    UTUG Властелин 8-ми колец

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    Норма.
    А теперь в момент вибрации, тож самое !? ;-)
    И еще бы на ХХ первую группу поглядеть и четвертую.
     
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    Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 GC)

    11:33:34 Group 001: Injection Quantity
    882 /min Engine Speed (G28)
    3.8 mg/str Injection Quantity
    7.1°KW Injection Duration (specified)
    77.4°C Coolant Temperature (G69)

    11:33:34 Group 004: Pump-Jet Valves
    903 /min Engine Speed (G28)
    0.0 °BTDC Injection Start (specified)
    6.6°KW Injection Duration (specified)
    0.0°KW Torsion Value

    11:33:34 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
    -0.14 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
    -0.16 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
    0.09 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
    0.24 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4
     
  6. UTUG

    UTUG Властелин 8-ми колец

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    Хмм, неинформативно, ты даешь снимок, а нужна последовательность данных. Лог нужен хотябы 5-10 секунд. В момент вибрации и после нее.
     
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  7. dvm78

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    вечером сниму.
     
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    Monday,24,January,2011,18:19:27
    03G 906 016 GC,,R4 2.0L EDC G000CG 9887,

    ,Group A:,'004,,,,Group B:,'003,,,,Group C:,'013
    ,,Engine Speed,Injection Start,Injection Duration,Torsion Value,,Engine Speed,Exhaust Gas,Exhaust Gas,Exhaust Gas,,Injection Quantity,Injection Quantity,Injection Quantity,Injection Quantity
    ,TIME,(G28),(specified),(specified),,TIME,(G28),Recirculat. (spec.),Recirculat. (actual),Recirc. Duty Cycle,TIME,Deviation Cyl. 1,Deviation Cyl. 2,Deviation Cyl. 3,Deviation Cyl. 4
    Marker,STAMP, /min, °BTDC,°KW,°KW,STAMP, /min, mg/str, mg/str, %,STAMP, mg/str, mg/str, mg/str, mg/str
    ,0.45,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,0.09,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,0.30,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.24
    ,0.97,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,0.61,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,0.81,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.24
    ,1.48,882,0.0,6.6,0.0,1.12,861,300.0,455.0,99.6,1.33,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.21
    ,2.00,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,1.64,882,300.0,430.0,99.6,1.84,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.21
    ,2.51,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,2.15,882,300.0,445.0,99.6,2.36,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.24
    ,3.03,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,2.67,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,2.87,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.24
    ,3.54,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,3.18,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,3.39,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.24
    ,4.06,882,0.0,6.6,0.0,3.70,861,300.0,450.0,99.6,3.90,-0.31,0.00,0.07,0.21
    ,4.57,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,4.21,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,4.42,-0.31,0.00,0.07,0.24
    ,5.09,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,4.73,882,300.0,430.0,99.6,4.93,-0.33,0.00,0.09,0.24
    ,5.61,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,5.25,861,300.0,450.0,99.6,5.45,-0.33,0.00,0.09,0.24
    ,6.12,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,5.77,903,300.0,430.0,99.6,5.97,-0.33,0.00,0.09,0.24
    ,6.64,882,0.0,6.6,0.0,6.29,882,300.0,420.0,99.6,6.48,-0.33,0.00,0.07,0.26
    ,7.16,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,6.81,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,7.00,-0.35,0.00,0.09,0.26
    ,7.69,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,7.31,882,300.0,420.0,99.6,7.52,-0.33,0.00,0.09,0.26
    ,8.20,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,7.84,861,300.0,445.0,99.6,8.04,-0.33,0.00,0.09,0.26
    ,8.72,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,8.36,861,300.0,455.0,99.6,8.56,-0.33,-0.02,0.09,0.26
    ,9.25,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,8.88,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,9.09,-0.35,-0.02,0.12,0.28
    ,9.78,882,0.0,6.6,0.0,9.40,882,300.0,445.0,99.6,9.61,-0.35,0.00,0.12,0.26
    ,10.31,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,9.94,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,10.15,-0.35,-0.02,0.12,0.26
    ,10.82,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,10.46,882,300.0,445.0,99.6,10.67,-0.35,-0.02,0.14,0.26
    ,11.34,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,10.98,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,11.18,-0.35,-0.02,0.12,0.24
    ,11.85,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,11.50,882,300.0,430.0,99.6,11.70,-0.31,-0.05,0.12,0.24
    ,12.37,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,12.01,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,12.21,-0.31,-0.05,0.12,0.26
    ,12.88,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,12.53,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,12.73,-0.31,-0.05,0.09,0.26
    ,13.40,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,13.04,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,13.24,-0.33,-0.05,0.09,0.28
    ,13.91,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,13.56,861,300.0,445.0,99.6,13.76,-0.31,-0.05,0.09,0.26
    ,14.43,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,14.07,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,14.27,-0.33,-0.05,0.09,0.28
    ,14.94,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,14.59,882,300.0,455.0,99.6,14.79,-0.31,-0.07,0.07,0.28
    ,15.46,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,15.10,861,300.0,445.0,99.6,15.30,-0.28,-0.07,0.07,0.28
    ,15.99,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,15.62,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,15.83,-0.28,-0.05,0.09,0.24
    ,16.51,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,16.15,882,300.0,455.0,99.6,16.35,-0.28,-0.05,0.09,0.26
    ,17.04,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,16.68,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,16.88,-0.28,-0.05,0.09,0.26
    ,17.57,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,17.21,882,300.0,445.0,99.6,17.41,-0.28,-0.05,0.07,0.26
    ,18.10,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,17.72,861,300.0,445.0,99.6,17.93,-0.28,-0.05,0.07,0.26
    ,18.61,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,18.25,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,18.46,-0.31,-0.05,0.07,0.26
    ,19.13,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,18.77,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,18.97,-0.31,-0.05,0.07,0.26
    ,19.64,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,19.28,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,19.49,-0.31,-0.02,0.07,0.26
    ,20.16,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,19.80,882,300.0,425.0,99.6,20.00,-0.33,-0.02,0.07,0.28
    ,20.67,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,20.31,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,20.52,-0.33,-0.05,0.09,0.28
    ,21.19,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,20.83,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,21.03,-0.33,-0.05,0.09,0.26
    ,21.70,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,21.34,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,21.55,-0.31,-0.05,0.09,0.26
    ,22.22,882,0.0,6.6,0.0,21.86,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,22.06,-0.28,-0.07,0.12,0.24
    ,22.73,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,22.37,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,22.58,-0.28,-0.07,0.12,0.24
    ,23.24,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,22.89,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,23.09,-0.28,-0.07,0.12,0.24
    ,23.79,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,23.41,861,300.0,435.0,99.6,23.63,-0.28,-0.07,0.12,0.26
    ,24.32,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,23.96,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,24.16,-0.31,-0.07,0.09,0.26
    ,24.86,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,24.47,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,24.68,-0.28,-0.05,0.09,0.24
    ,25.36,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,25.01,861,300.0,440.0,99.6,25.20,-0.28,-0.05,0.07,0.24
    ,25.88,882,0.0,6.6,0.0,25.52,861,300.0,445.0,99.6,25.72,-0.26,-0.05,0.07,0.21
    ,26.39,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,26.03,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,26.24,-0.26,-0.02,0.07,0.24
    ,26.91,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,26.55,882,300.0,420.0,99.6,26.75,-0.26,-0.02,0.07,0.21
    ,27.42,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,27.06,861,300.0,455.0,99.6,27.27,-0.28,-0.02,0.07,0.24
    ,27.94,861,0.0,7.1,0.0,27.58,882,300.0,450.0,99.6,27.78,-0.28,0.00,0.07,0.21
    ,28.45,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,28.09,882,300.0,430.0,99.6,28.30,-0.28,-0.02,0.07,0.24
    ,28.97,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,28.61,882,300.0,435.0,99.6,28.81,-0.28,-0.02,0.07,0.24
    ,29.48,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,29.12,882,300.0,445.0,99.6,29.33,-0.28,-0.02,0.07,0.24
    ,30.00,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,29.64,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,29.84,-0.28,0.00,0.05,0.24
    ,30.51,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,30.15,882,300.0,445.0,99.6,30.36,-0.28,-0.02,0.05,0.24
    ,31.03,882,0.0,7.1,0.0,30.67,882,300.0,440.0,99.6,30.87,-0.26,-0.02,0.07,0.24
     
  9. UTUG

    UTUG Властелин 8-ми колец

    7 ноя 2005
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    Странности какието. Движек у тебя новый, еще не сталкивался с таким.
    Система впрыска какая, комонреил ?
    С форсунками все в порядке, прыгает подача топлива немного, это и есть вибрация скорей всего.
    Надобы проверить датчики, особенно температурные. Ну ежели по электроники проблем не будет, придеца замерять высокое давление в рейке.
     
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  10. dvm78

    dvm78 Участник форума

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    Насос форсунка , может тандемник барахлит?
     
  11. UTUG

    UTUG Властелин 8-ми колец

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    Именно, если НФ, то после проверки датчиков проверять низкое давление и тандемник.
     
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  12. Denni

    Denni Живу я здесь

    4 сен 2005
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    Если не ошибаюсь, на этом моторе кол-во впрыска должно быть в районе 5. Регулируется проворачиванием выпускного распредвала.
     
  13. dvm78

    dvm78 Участник форума

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    А откуда информация, из личного опыта или документально подтвержденная.
     
  14. Denni

    Denni Живу я здесь

    4 сен 2005
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    Лично я знаю со слов эксперта у оф. дилера. Но в Эльзе это тоже должно быть сказано, я вроде видел.
     
  15. UTUG

    UTUG Властелин 8-ми колец

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    1-ю группу в логе сделай, там подачу хорошо видно.
     
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    dvm78 Участник форума

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    Wednesday,26,January,2011,18:41:40
    03G 906 016 GC,,R4 2.0L EDC G000CG 9887,

    ,Group A:,'001,,,,Group B:, Not Running,,,,Group C:, Not Running
    ,,Engine Speed,Injection Quantity,Injection Duration,Coolant,,,,,,,,,,
    ,TIME,(G28),,(specified),Temperature (G69),TIME,,,,,TIME,,,,
    Marker,STAMP, /min, mg/str,°KW,°C,STAMP,,,,,STAMP,,,,
    ,0.14,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,0.29,882,3.6,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,0.49,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,0.65,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,0.81,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,1.01,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,1.17,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,1.32,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,1.52,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,1.68,861,4.7,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,1.84,861,4.7,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,2.04,882,4.1,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,2.20,861,4.7,7.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,2.35,861,4.7,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,2.55,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,2.71,882,4.1,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,2.87,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,3.07,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,3.23,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,3.38,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,3.58,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,3.74,882,3.6,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,3.90,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,4.10,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,4.26,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,4.41,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,4.61,882,3.3,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,4.77,882,3.3,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,4.93,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,5.13,882,3.3,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,5.29,882,3.3,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,5.44,882,3.3,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,5.64,882,3.8,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,5.80,861,4.7,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,5.96,882,3.6,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,6.16,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,6.32,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,6.48,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,6.69,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,6.85,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,7.01,882,4.1,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,7.21,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,7.36,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,7.52,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,7.72,882,3.3,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,7.88,882,4.1,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,8.04,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,8.25,882,3.3,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,8.41,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,8.57,903,3.0,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,8.77,882,3.6,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,8.92,882,3.8,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,9.08,882,3.3,6.6,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,9.28,861,4.4,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,9.44,882,3.8,7.1,77.4,,,,,,,,,,
    ,9.60,882,3.3,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,9.81,882,4.1,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,9.97,882,3.8,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,10.13,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,10.34,882,3.3,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,10.50,882,3.6,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,10.66,882,3.8,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,10.86,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,11.02,882,3.6,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,11.19,882,3.8,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,11.38,882,3.3,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,11.54,882,3.8,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,11.69,882,3.6,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,11.89,882,3.8,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,12.05,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,12.21,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,12.41,882,3.8,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,12.57,861,4.1,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,12.72,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,12.92,882,3.8,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,13.08,882,3.6,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,13.24,882,3.8,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,13.44,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,13.60,882,3.6,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,13.75,882,3.6,7.1,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,13.95,882,3.3,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,14.11,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,14.27,882,3.3,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,14.47,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,14.63,882,3.8,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
    ,14.78,882,3.6,6.6,76.5,,,,,,,,,,
     
  17. Denni

    Denni Живу я здесь

    4 сен 2005
    2.201
    А6 '01 1,9 PD
    Значения плавают от 3,0 до 4,7, что есть до фига. Попробуй увеличить подачу до 5, если что - обратно вернешь.
     
  18. Бандера$

    Бандера$ Участник форума

    22 окт 2010
    437
    astra j
    А интересно маховик в связи счем меняли?
     
  19. dvm78

    dvm78 Участник форума

    25 май 2007
    378
    Москва
    Q7 16г. 3.0TDI CVMD
    Маховик был заменен по причине стука при заводе ,его поменяли машина стала тихо заводится все супер.
     
  20. dvm78

    dvm78 Участник форума

    25 май 2007
    378
    Москва
    Q7 16г. 3.0TDI CVMD
    ок завтра попробую ,нашел доки там прописана подача от 3 до 7.