Парни если запустили вебасту с пульта , садясь в авто её нужно выключать или можно начинать движение и она отключится сама ?
отключается сама при достижении 90 градусов (включается при запуске тоже сама, кстати, даже если с пульта не включалась). можно отключить в любой момент, если есть желание. может быть у Вас также.
На бензиновом движке использую след. образом: с пульта запускаю, прогревается салон, завожусь, еду, выключаю тогда двигатель прогрет до конца (с ней прогревается в разы быстрее).
вот спасибо! (без шуток). сам бы никак не догадался, а оно вот - на поверхности. отголоски тем вокруг.. )))
Наверное, стоит уточнить для особо обеспеченных и переживающих : 1. Вышеозначенная рекомендация действительна для вебасты заводской (она, как я сделал вывод из эксплуатации на протяжении 4-х лет сама не вырубается, а продолжает дорабатывать заданный промежуток времени до конца). 2. Насчет шуток по экономии - оставлю на усмотрение шутящих господ, видимо, боящихся, как бы их не заподозрили в этом гнусном деле, но вот такой вопрос - Вы пылесос тоже не выключаете, закончив им пользоваться? вебаста отключается ненамного сложнее - два нажатия через ММИ. 3. Когда по сути вопроса ТС ответить нечего, но сказать ой как хочется, начинается флуд.
3.1.1 Switch On/Starting Fuel When starting the vehicle engine the heater goes in standby. With a water circuit temperature below 60 °C and an outside temperature below 5 °C (option with outside temperature sensor) the starting sequence commences. The glow plug and the combustion air fan are activated. After 30 seconds the fuel dosing pump starts operation and combustion air fan operation is suspended for 3 seconds. Subsequently the combustion air fan speed is increased in a ramp within 57 seconds to nearly full load operation. After reaching full load fuel delivery within this period the glow plug is deactivated and the combustion air fan operation increased to full load. During the subsequent 45 seconds as well as in normal operation the glow plug functions as flame sensor to monitor the flame condition. After all these events the automatically controlled heating operation starts. In case of a no flame condition or a flameout, a restart is automatically initiated. If the no flame condition persists, fuel delivery is stopped and the heaters enters an error lockout with a run-down of the combustion air fan. Diesel When starting the vehicle engine the heater goes in standby. With a water circuit temperature below 60 °C and an outside temperature below 5 °C (option with outside temperature sensor) the starting sequence commences. The glow plug and the combustion air fan are activated. After 30 seconds the fuel dosing pump starts operation and combustion air fan operation is suspended for 3 seconds. Subsequently the combustion air fan speed is increased in two ramps within 56 seconds to nearly full load operation. After a stabilisation phase (constant speed) of 15 seconds the combustion air fan speed is again increased in a ramp within 50 seconds to nearly full load. After reaching full load fuel delivery the glow plug is deactivated and the combustion air fan operation increased to full load. During the subsequent 45 seconds as well as in normal operation the glow plug functions as flame sensor to monitor the flame condition. After all these events the automatically controlled heating operation starts. In case of a no flame condition or a flameout, a restart is automatically initiated. If the no flame condition persists, fuel delivery is stopped and the heater enters an error lockout with a run-down of the combustion air fan. A flameout during normal combustion operation causes an automatic restart. 3.1.2 Heating Operation Fuel When the temperature rises to reach 72 °C the heater switches to the energy saving part load operation. A rise in temperature up to 76.5 °C causes the heater to enter a control idle period. This also happens when exceeding a total heating operating time of 76 minutes. After cool-down of the coolant to 71 °C the heater resumes part load operation. Another rise in temperature to 76.5 °C causes the heater to enter again the control idle period. A drop in the coolant temperature during part load operation due to an increased demand in heat will cause the heater to switch to full load operation at 56 °C. Diesel Heating operation for the Diesel type heater is identical in the sequence of events. Should the coolant temperature drop during the control idle period to but not below 71 °C within 900 seconds, a subsequent drop in the coolant temperature below 71 °C causes the heater to perform a regular starting sequence into full load operation. A drop in the coolant temperature during part load operation due to an increased demand in heat will cause the heater to switch to full load operation at 65 °C. 3.1.3 Switch Off/Deactivation When turning the engine off the heater is deactivated. Combustion stops and run-down commences. The combustion air fan first continues operation to cool the heater down (run-down) to be automatically switched off afterwards. NOTE The run-down time and the combustion air fan speed depend on the heater operating condition at the time of deactivation. Run-down time is for: Fuel 168 seconds when deactivated in full load operation and 157 seconds when deactivated in part load operation. Diesel 175 seconds when deactivated in full load operation and 100 seconds when deactivated in part load operation. Dependent on the software variant implemented in the control unit there might be deviations from those run-down periods.
Это было про 3.1 Functional Description Thermo Top Z (Supplementary Heater) дополнительный обогреватель Для 3.2 Functional Description Thermo Top C (Auxiliary Heater) вспомогательный обогреватель. 3.2 Functional Description Thermo Top C (Auxiliary Heater) 3.2.1 Switch On Fuel When operating the "instant heat" switch button the timer display shows or when operating the switch on the Telestart transmitter the operating indicator light on the transmitter flashes. This puts the heater in standly. The glow plug, the combustion air fan and the circulation pump are activated. After 30 seconds the fuel dosing pump starts operation and combustion air fan operation is suspended for 3 seconds. Subsequently the combustion air fan speed is increased in a ramp within 57 seconds to nearly full load operation. After reaching full load fuel delivery within this period the glow plug is deactivated and the combustion air fan operation increased to full load. During the subsequent 45 seconds as well as in normal operation the glow plug functions as flame sensor to monitor the flame condition. After all these events the automatically controlled heating operation starts. In case of a no flame condition or a flameout, a restart is automatically initiated. If the no flame condition persists, fuel delivery is stopped and the heaters enters an error lockout with a run-down of the combustion air fan. Diesel When operating the "instant heat" switch button the timer display shows or when operating the switch on the Telestart transmitter the operating indicator light on the transmitter flashes. This puts the heater in standly. The glow plug, the combustion air fan and the circulation pump are activated. After 30 seconds the fuel dosing pump starts operation and combustion air fan operation is suspended for 3 seconds. Subsequently the combustion air fan speed is increased in two ramps within 56 seconds to nearly full load operation. After a stabilisation phase (constant speed) of 15 seconds the combustion air fan speed is again increased in a ramp within 50 seconds to nearly full load. After reaching full load fuel delivery the glow plug is deactivated and the combustion air fan operation increased to full load. During the subsequent 45 seconds as well as in normal operation the glow plug functions as flame sensor to monitor the flame condition. After all these events the automatically controlled heating operation starts. In case of a no flame condition or a flameout, a restart is automatically initiated. If the no flame condition persists, fuel delivery is stopped and the heater enters an error lockout with a run-down of the combustion air fan. A flameout during normal combustion operation causes an automatic restart. 3.2.2 Heating Operation Fuel When the temperature rises to reach 72 °C the heater switches to the energy saving part load operation. A rise in temperature up to 76.5 °C causes the heater to enter a control idle period. This also happens when exceeding a total heating operating time of 76 minutes. The circulation pump, the vehicle's own heating air fan, and the operation indicator light remain on during control idle. After cool-down of the coolant to 71 °C the heater resumes part load operation. Another rise in temperature to 76.5 °C causes the heater to enter again the control idle period. A drop in the coolant temperature during part load operation due to an increased demand in heat will cause the heater to switch to full load operation at 56 °C. Diesel Heating operation for the Diesel type heater is identical in the sequence of events. Should the coolant temperature drop during the control idle period to but not below 71 °C within 900 seconds, a subsequent drop in the coolant temperature below 71 °C causes the heater to perform a regular starting sequence into full load operation. 3.2.3 Switch Off When turning the heater off by pushing the "instant heat" switch button ( in indicator panel extinguishes) or when operating the switch on the Telestart (flashing indicator on hand-held transmitter extinguishes) the vehicle heating air fan stops. Combustion terminates and run-down commences. The circulation pump and the combustion air fan first continue operation to cool the heater down (run-down) to be automatically switched off afterwards. NOTE The run-down time and the combustion air fan speed depend on the heater operating condition at the time of deactivation. Run-down time is for: Fuel 168 seconds when deactivated in full load operation and 157 seconds when deactivated in part load operation. Diesel 175 seconds when deactivated in full load operation and 100 seconds when deactivated in part load operation. Dependent on the software variant implemented in the control unit there might be deviations from those run-down periods. Thermo Top Z/C 3 Functional Description 303 3.2.4 Auxiliary Heater in Supplementary Heater Function Вспомогательный, используемый как дополнительный. 3.2.4.1 Switch On When starting the engine the heater goes in standby (see 3.1.1). With the temperature of the water circuit below 60 °C and the outside temperature below 5 °C (option with external temperature sensor) the starting procedure is initiated. NOTE When operating in the supplementary heater function there will be no automatic trigger of the circulation pump and the vehicle's heating air fan. 3.2.4.2 Switch Off Turning the engine off deactivates the heater. Combustion is terminated and run-down commences. The combustion air fan however continues operation to cool the heater down (run-down) to be automatically switched off afterwards (see 3.1.3). 3 Functional Description Thermo Top Z/C 304
Да легко. Но вот для особо обеспеченных: сами-то внимательно прочитали? или логика - то шо на аглицком, то и прокатит? А если б внимательно читали, прежде чем рекомендовать, то увидели, что эта замечательная цитата из ELSA касается именно догревателя ThermoTop Z, о котором мы сейчас не говорим. А если действительно внимательно читали, то: Видимо, особая обеспеченность рождает и особую поспешность. Так вот там черным по белому пишется, что вебаста не выключается, а лишь переходит в режим энергосбережения. А выключится она лишь после нажатия кнопки или истечения времени. Так что, пока не было приведено ни одного конкретного довода за то, чтоб впустую гонять агрегат, пусть и на режиме энергосбережения, но он все равно работает (а его остаточное время работы может составлять и 30-40 мин), вместо того, чтоб 1-2 раза нажать на кнопку. Раз уж вы завели речь об экономии, экономия может быть не только в топливе. у каждого агрегата имеется свой ограниченный ресурс. З.Ы. to sim_a100_2.3_92: как всегда, спасибо за конструктив!
Не за что. Это не Эльза, а Workshop manual Webasto Thermosysteme GmbH Abt. Technische Dokumentation D-82131 Stockdorf Telephone: 089/85794-542 Telefax: 089/85794-757 Про режим Standby там особо не написано, только про Fuel consumption Full load 0.50 kg/h Part load 0.25 kg/h
да ладно Вам! "все равно работает"! "When the temperature rises to reach 72 °C the heater switches to the energy saving part load operation. A rise in temperature up to 76.5 °C causes the heater to enter a control idle period." - здесь все четко и ясно сказано. или Вам непонятно, что такое "спящий режим"?? а вообще - вести с Вами разговор просто сказочно: "битые" силлогизмы сочетаются с выдернутыми фразами и Вашими предположениями о личности собеседника, а потом обратно. то Вы почему-то утверждаете, что кто-то флудит, сами флудя первым, то утверждаете, что речь а вебасте "не той системы" (хотя ТС не называл её), затем тут же благодарите за конструктив.. это жестко! скажу одно - не комплексуйте. (без обид, ничего личного)