а6 2,7Т - изучаем турбомотор

Гидрокомпенсаторы ставить только родные или можно что то еще?? Под ними надо тоже менять?? Пружины, тарелки, маслосъемные колпачки??

Это по теме))))))

 

ну как обычно, исчерпывая запасы ) он 95 литров по паспорту в реале побольше.
чего вдо и не скрывает.
в реале я бы под такой запрос ставил 130литров при 5.5бара

 

у меня стоит от М5 ,он вроде как 130 литров при 5 бара заявлен, мне его уж точно не надо менять.

 

Пружины, тарелки, маслосъемные колпачки такие же как и на всех 2,7тт

 

вот именно, тут Pierburg от bmw m5 подойдет, или walbro, или bosch 044

 

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Спасиб. я на нем езжу, оху... ый насос.

 

Я к тому что надо ли их менять если меняешь гидрики??

 

Короче снял тут логи своего газового чуда.
Первый на газу, второй на бензе. И ошибочки по мотору.

Это газ:
Tuesday,17,January,2012,20:47:57
4Z7 907 551 H,,2.7l V6/5VT 0002,

,Group A:,'020,,,,Group B:,'093,,,,Group C:,'115
,,Timing Retardation,Timing Retardation,Timing Retardation,Timing Retardation,,Engine Speed,Engine Load,Phase Position,Phase Position,,Engine Speed,Engine Load,Boost Pressure,Boost Pressure
,TIME,Cylinder 1,Cylinder 2,Cylinder 3,Cylinder 4,TIME,(G28),,Bank 1,Bank 2,TIME,(G28),,(specified),(actual)
Marker,STAMP,°KW,°KW,°KW,°KW,STAMP, /min, %,°KW,°KW,STAMP, /min, %, mbar, mbar
,0.30,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.60,1800,43.6,-4.0,-2.0,0.01,1600,51.1,1000.0,1000.0
,1.24,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,1.51,2040,82.0,-4.0,-2.0,0.90,1920,51.1,1000.0,1000.0
,2.11,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,2.41,2600,95.5,-4.0,-2.0,1.81,2160,85.7,1810.0,1100.0
,3.03,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,3.35,4760,103.8,-4.0,-2.0,2.71,3600,101.5,1690.0,1310.0
,4.05,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,4.42,6400,96.2,-4.0,-2.0,3.70,5360,103.0,1620.0,1300.0
,5.11,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,5.42,4440,109.0,-4.0,-2.0,4.78,5520,108.3,1580.0,1310.0
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,8.14,0.0,4.5,3.0,0.0,8.51,5840,105.3,-4.0,-2.0,7.78,5720,103.8,1560.0,1280.0
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,10.13,0.0,4.5,3.0,0.0,10.46,4960,106.0,-4.0,-2.0,9.80,4720,109.8,1600.0,1340.0
,11.14,0.0,4.5,3.0,0.0,11.48,5240,106.0,-4.0,-2.0,10.80,5040,106.8,1590.0,1350.0
,12.18,0.0,3.8,2.3,0.0,12.52,5560,103.0,-4.0,-2.0,11.82,5360,106.0,1580.0,1320.0
,13.23,0.0,3.8,2.3,0.0,13.55,4160,86.5,-4.0,-2.0,12.89,5680,106.0,1540.0,1300.0
,14.17,0.0,3.8,2.3,0.0,14.48,4280,87.2,-4.0,-2.0,13.85,4200,92.5,1190.0,1380.0
,15.08,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,15.38,3120,11.3,-4.0,-2.0,14.78,3920,64.7,1000.0,1280.0
,15.99,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,16.28,3080,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,15.69,3120,10.5,1000.0,1080.0
,16.89,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,17.19,2920,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,16.58,3040,11.3,1000.0,1040.0
,17.79,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,18.09,2760,11.3,-4.0,-2.0,17.49,2880,10.5,1000.0,1030.0
,18.70,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,19.00,2600,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,18.40,2720,10.5,1000.0,1020.0
,19.60,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,19.90,2520,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,19.30,2560,11.3,1000.0,1020.0
,20.51,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,20.81,2760,82.0,-4.0,-2.0,20.21,2600,20.3,1000.0,1010.0
,21.42,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,21.71,2680,103.0,-4.0,-2.0,21.11,2720,93.2,1340.0,1230.0
,22.33,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,22.62,2680,18.8,-4.0,-2.0,22.02,2680,103.0,1320.0,1380.0
,23.22,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,23.52,2600,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,22.92,2600,9.8,1000.0,1090.0
,24.13,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,24.43,2480,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,23.83,2560,10.5,1000.0,1030.0
,25.03,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,25.33,2440,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,24.73,2480,15.8,1000.0,1020.0
,25.94,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,26.24,2400,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,25.64,2440,10.5,1000.0,1010.0
,26.84,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,27.14,2320,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,26.54,2360,11.3,1000.0,1010.0
,27.75,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,28.05,2240,11.3,-4.0,-2.0,27.45,2320,10.5,1000.0,1010.0
,28.65,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,28.95,2200,10.5,-4.0,-2.0,28.35,2240,11.3,1000.0,1010.0
,29.56,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,29.86,2120,11.3,-4.0,-2.0,29.26,2160,10.5,1000.0,1010.0
,30.46,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,30.77,2080,11.3,-4.0,-2.0,30.16,2080,11.3,1000.0,1010.0
,231.65,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,231.95,680,29.3,-4.0,-1.0,231.34,640,29.3,1000.0,1000.0
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Бензин



Tuesday,17,January,2012,21:01:05
4Z7 907 551 H,,2.7l V6/5VT 0002,

,Group A:,'020,,,,Group B:,'093,,,,Group C:,'115
,,Timing Retardation,Timing Retardation,Timing Retardation,Timing Retardation,,Engine Speed,Engine Load,Phase Position,Phase Position,,Engine Speed,Engine Load,Boost Pressure,Boost Pressure
,TIME,Cylinder 1,Cylinder 2,Cylinder 3,Cylinder 4,TIME,(G28),,Bank 1,Bank 2,TIME,(G28),,(specified),(actual)
Marker,STAMP,°KW,°KW,°KW,°KW,STAMP, /min, %,°KW,°KW,STAMP, /min, %, mbar, mbar
,0.25,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.54,680,31.6,-4.0,-2.0,0.84,680,30.8,1000.0,1000.0
,1.17,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,1.45,1680,76.7,-4.0,-2.0,1.75,2040,82.7,1410.0,1020.0
,2.06,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,2.36,2680,100.0,-4.0,-2.0,2.66,3200,111.3,1580.0,1330.0
,2.97,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,3.27,4320,112.0,-4.0,-2.0,3.60,4920,107.5,1610.0,1320.0
,3.95,0.0,3.0,0.0,0.0,4.30,5880,103.0,-4.0,-2.0,4.63,4640,118.0,1600.0,1380.0
,4.95,0.0,3.0,0.0,0.0,5.25,4160,112.0,-4.0,-2.0,5.56,4360,110.5,1600.0,1350.0
,5.88,0.0,2.3,0.0,0.0,6.20,4680,109.8,-4.0,-2.0,6.52,4840,109.0,1590.0,1340.0
,6.87,3.0,2.3,0.0,0.0,7.20,5200,110.5,-4.0,-2.0,7.55,5400,108.3,1570.0,1310.0
,7.89,3.0,4.5,3.0,0.0,8.25,5800,104.5,-4.0,-2.0,8.62,6040,103.0,1510.0,1280.0
,8.99,2.3,4.5,3.0,0.0,9.37,6400,98.5,-4.0,-2.0,9.74,6080,105.3,1500.0,1300.0
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,11.08,5.3,4.5,3.0,0.0,11.41,5120,106.8,-4.0,-2.0,11.75,5240,107.5,1440.0,1340.0
,12.09,5.3,3.8,2.3,0.0,12.45,5440,101.5,-4.0,-2.0,12.79,5520,103.0,1400.0,1320.0
,13.14,4.5,3.8,5.3,0.0,13.50,5680,103.0,-4.0,-2.0,13.86,5760,105.3,1530.0,1300.0
,14.23,4.5,6.0,5.3,0.0,14.56,5200,114.3,-4.0,-2.0,14.89,4360,112.0,1330.0,1420.0
,15.20,4.5,6.0,5.3,0.0,15.51,4200,14.3,-4.0,-2.0,15.81,4120,11.3,1000.0,1120.0
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,24.53,1.5,5.3,3.0,0.0,24.90,6040,103.0,-4.0,-2.0,25.27,6040,103.8,1500.0,1300.0
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Ошибки

Tuesday,17,January,2012,19:59:19:13314
VCDS Version: Release 908.0
Data version: 20090911



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Address 01: Engine Labels: 078-907-551-AZA.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 4Z7 907 551 H
Component and/or Version: 2.7l V6/5VT 0002
Software Coding: 26752
Work Shop Code: WSC 02325
Additional Info: WAUZZZ4B12N046517 AUZ7Z0A1932658
4 Faults Found:

17538 - Fuel Trim; Bank 2 (Mult): System too Lean
P1130 - 35-00 - -
17887 - Brake Boost Vacuum System: Mechanical Failure
P1479 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17536 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (Mult): System too Lean
P1128 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent

Readiness: 0000 0000

 

логи так не выкладываются, это прости пиз---ец

 

Я знаю. А как сделать нормально это??

 

недодув бедная смесь в тему про логи с таким букетом надо идти

если только на бензине то ошибки по смеси интересно есть?

 

Если честно то ни чего не понял что ты хотел сказать.

 

если они в порядке зачем их менять,), а чё с твоими гидриками?

 

Ну я так на будущее. А так как многие кто слышал говорят что постукивают.

 

вообще не заморачивайся!

хороший стук наружу вылезет)

 

Сорри, офф. Сергей были ли проекты компрессор + улитка на 1.8? Если да, то где можно почитать?

 

нет но кучка компрессоров лежит. хочу его после дроселя вонзить а это не удобно на 1.8. ставить пару турбу + компрессор на 1.8т не вижу смысла.